Gossip Girl Round Table: "Enough About Eve"
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As the Gossip Girl forum lights up with your thoughts, the Insider staff assembles to discuss burning questions, funny quotes and hot moments from last night.
Gossip Girl topics from "Enough About Eve" include Nate's scheming skills, Chuck's dalliances, Carter's disappearance, Vanessa's ... um, existence and more:
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1. What was your favorite Gossip Girl quote from the episode?
DANdy: Pretty much anything out of Chuck's mouth, but I'll go with his calm reaction to kissing a man: Do you really think I've never kissed a guy before?
Gossip Guy: LOL, I dunno why, but I loved Blair going to Lily for maternal guidance and responded with, "Where'd you learn to give a pep talk, Guantanamo?" Speaking of which, WTH is Eleanor? She couldn't show up for Lily's wedding or Blair's toast? I know Cyrus is an entertaining man, but can't you leave his side for a second?
Mister Meester: I love that Blair would openly call Vanessa "a tired cliche from the 718" planning "preachy I-hate-the-man talk," and "some girl with tacky accessories who lives to recycle." Girl does not mince words!
2. Who would you have chosen to give the toast?
DANdy: Rufus. We've seen the kind of waffle spread he's responsible for; it's safe to assume he'd do wonders for any toast, as well. (Thank you. I'll be here all day!)
Gossip Guy: I'd go for the celeb factor. NYU needs money. As webmaster of a celebrity gossip site, I can tell you they bring in more than hippies or Queen B.
Mister Meester: Blair Waldorf. Just to see if she'd zing Vanessa during the speech. Or if anyone would actually stay awake through the Napoleon zingers.
3. From 1-10, what was the Vanessa uselessness scale ranking?
DANdy: 1, dammit! I'm officially hopping aboard the Vanessa bandwagon! Say what you want about V, Gossip Guy, but she's clearly served a purpose this season. Would I like to see more of her cleavage and hear less of her judging? Of course. But she hasn't been useless. She's proven to be an actual foil for Blair.
Mister Meester: 5. Okay, so Vanessa really wanted to give the speech to impress her mom. That part made perfect sense, as does her competition with (and her strong resentment of) Blair. But selling out Dan and Olivia? I just don't buy that V is that conniving all of a sudden, no matter the motive.
Gossip Guy: Ugh, 16. Seriously, Ms. Moral Hippie throws her friend and roommate under the bus because of a suggestion by Blair? Look, I get that the toast was important to her to win over her even bigger hippie mom, but blah, blah, blah. That's still not the Vanessa I've grown to know and hate.
AGGREGATE VANESSA USELESSNESS SCORE: 7.3!
4. Harder to believe: Nate actually hatching that plot, or Carter actually walking away from Serena in that dress?
Gossip Guy: Sorry Nate, you're much too pretty to have to think. I'm pretty sure Grandfather came up with that one.
DANdy: Keep in mind, Carter has actually seen Serena naked, so... I lost my train of thought.
Mister Meester: If you chalk the scheme up to the Vanderbilt political machine, I can see Nate swinging it. What I can't see is Carter taking off the way he did. This was a guy who refused to leave Serena's side when she was trying to brush him off, and now that his debt is gone, he's just too proud? Really Carter?
Nate pulling a fast one on Serena? Or anyone? Dubious, to say the least.
5. Chuck's same-sex kiss: Hot, not or overhyped?
Gossip Guy: So overhyped. It was for maybe a split second, very forced into the plot line, and shockingly not his first anyways.
Mister Meester: Definitely overhyped. It made for an interesting wrinkle in Blair's plot, but wasn't really that scandalous, as Chuck was completely unfazed by the kiss itself. If anything, I was just sad Blair used Chuck (as he said).
DANdy: Please. It was barely a peck. You know what I always say: no tongue, no reason to get worked up over a same-sex kiss on Gossip Girl.
BONUS QUESTION: Will Chair kiss and make up? Hopefully with each other?
Mister Meester: As much as this was a setback for Chair, their exchange at the end showed maturity. She apologized, and while he's not over it yet, at least he's not out seeking revenge in the form of twins. Progress, people!
Gossip Guy: I'm not worried, this couple is stronger than the furniture they share a name with.
DANdy: Kiss and make up? No. But when Dorota scrubs the bathtub next week, let's just say she won't be the only member of the Waldorf household on her knees!
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October 20th, 2009 12:31 PM
'Carter taking off the way he did. This was a guy who refused to leave Serena's side when she was trying to brush him off, and now that his debt is gone, he's just too proud? Really Carter?'
exactly it.He's gone with no debt,Thanks to Serena.This is kinda similar thing he did to Bree's cousin, take off just like that. Carter is useless. S should know better. Carter is gone with no debt.
October 20th, 2009 12:52 PM
Maybe it's just me, but if you watch Dan kiss Olivia or previously Serena... in any episode... he always does this tongue slide thing first, and it is so gross! Has anyone else noticed this???
Happens every time, and I hate it. He is NOT one of the characters I want to see french kissing someone else. But, unfortunately, I think we're gonna see a lot of that coming on Nov. 9th. Can't wait for the most unexciting threesome ever to be filmed, if it really will be D-V-O. Maybe Dan will leave the room to make some Morrocan chicken. I'd rather see Vanessa-Blair-Olivia, but that will never happen since GG cannot decide if it wants to remain a show for teens, or grow up a little bit.
October 20th, 2009 12:52 PM
1) "Love me?" "Always."
2) I would have written the toast story with the same outcome, but a different road to get there. V. and B. squabble and try to undercut each other over it beforehand, culminating in an argument at the dinner because each one thinks she has lost the speech to the other. Both are then surprised to find that Olivia was the real plan all along.
3) Vanessa uselessness was a 10. Even you guys seem duped into thinking her character is normally "nice." No, she's not. She's been a manipulator and extortionist for three seasons now, but somehow we're supposed to love her genuine earthiness? Sorry. She can stay on as a villain, but only if she actually gets her comeuppance for a change.
4) The whole Carter/Serena storyline has become a limp fish. It's totally unbelievable. The Nate storyline is hot, though, and as long as Grandpa is calling the shots, it's totally believable. I think we should continue to see Nate struggle with "honest, normal guy inside" vs. "political climber controlled by his Family". I think political Nate is going to win, and I like it!
5) Any kiss involving Chuck is hot by definition. They should have done a more intense gay kiss, though. That would also be the only way to save the idiocy of the whole "Blair lied! Aiee!" storyline, which makes no sense in the first place.
October 20th, 2009 1:14 PM
² Blairfan22: I know exactly what you mean and i totally agree with you. It really looks - weird and a little bit disgusting. Does he have to do it like that or is it the Penn Badgley way of kissing?
October 20th, 2009 1:17 PM
1.Blair´s quote was the greatest :) i couldnt stop laughing..
2.I keep asking myself why Chuck and Blair never leave the building together? has anyone noticed it too?
3.For the first time in a long time, i really hated Vanessa. Double- crossed D & O but still called her one of the "nicest person Ive know" and wishes she would be Dan´s sister.. bitch
4.Of course Nate is not that smart, of course he would sell Carter out, plotting with the family that forgot about him, but agreeing with the Buckleys about Carter?? thats lame, even for him..
5. What about Dorota and Vanya?? want to know!!!
October 20th, 2009 1:45 PM
i'm not going to lie, PJ Buckley was one of my favorite parts of this episode.
October 20th, 2009 2:04 PM
1. Not a quote but...Dan with the chicken. Blair had some killer lines well delivered, but she was so sabotaged in this ep I couldn't believe it.
2. Rufus works for me. He could play the cassingle single twenty times.
3. There is no number high enough for Vanessa's uselessness. Grating character. Awful portrayal.
4. Carter's storyline was so much fail this time around, and I loved him in 1x04. The only good thing about him was that Seb Stan is a great actor.
5. Overhyped.
October 20th, 2009 2:34 PM
I've never cared one way or the other about V but i trully disliked her in this episode!that girl is such a hipocrite how dare she judge other people(Blair)when she'd back stab a friend without blinking?seriously! I felt so so bad for Chuck he's being such a great boy-friend and he looked so hurt i just wanted to hug him and tuck him in....
October 20th, 2009 3:01 PM
I LOOOOOVED THIS EPISODE!!
Although it's not quite realistic, I like the fact that
Nate finally got some character. He was always so boring.
Besides, the way he walked away from that poker game (or whatever, I'm not really an expert) he looked SOOO HOOOOOT!!!
I also like Vanessa gone Blair. I would really like B and V to
be friends, it would make such amazing storylines!
I'm probably the only one to think this, right?
October 20th, 2009 3:15 PM
Maria, I completely agree with you. V has sorta always been a whateve factor for me...I completely hated her this episode. But it makes me happy that she's turning into what she hates/judges other people for. And I am not digging V/B friendship. Seriously, it would be easier to see a G/B friendship than V/B.